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Traced Bases : A Rant.

Journal Entry: Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:46 PM
<edit> this is out of date and rather lacking in some points, however some of it still stands. Will be edited at a later date.

This is a negative rant about traced bases. If you disagree with me, feel free to leave a comment. I'm always up for a debate.

edit, for those who aren't clear :
My issue is not the type of art produced by traced bases, how good it is, or why you do it. My issue is that it's art theft and disrespectful to the original artist to use their work without their permission and that dA is breaking several of its OWN POLICIES by having a traced base category.

Dear Deviantart:
Why do you insist on breaking your own policies?
You have a traced base category, and yet;
FAQ #8: What are violations of the deviantART copyright policy?
"...adapting or copying the original work or by manipulating or altering the original. "


Why do you support art thievery and the bastardization of artist's hard work? Why do you allow traced base makers to continue
to steal and edit art? Why do you encourage people to shoot themselves in the foot and halt their improvement?

"There is nothing against the rules about traced bases!"
On the contrary. DA has a traced base category; yet it has policies against the alteration and distribution of other's work without their explicit permission.

"I credited the original artist, so it's fine!
FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?
More than that, the most common 'source' for traced bases is zerochan- which is effectively photobucket for anime images.
Very rarely do I see any base maker source back to the original artist (most commonly on pixiv)
Come on. You've got the energy to make a base; 2 second on saucenao or tinyeye with the original image will find the original source for you.

"I can't speak Japanese, so I can't ask the original artist to make a base of their work!"
FAQ #257: What sort of permission do I need to use someone else's work?
the don't make a base of work you don't have permission to alter, dumbass.
Google translate. Link to the base. Maybe a before and after comparison. They're not stupid; they'll get the picture. Odds are a million to one they'll a) be horrified b) say no.

"I can't draw, so I have to use bases!"
If you can't draw, practice.
Here is babby sox's art, three or so years ago (when i still used bases)

Here is babby sox's art now.


Suck it up. Put pen to paper, not mouse to ms paint.  (*not saying all mouse/mspaint work is bad. I've seen some good stuff in my time; referring to bases only here)
Work hard. Don't trace over shitty anime bases.

"Bases help me learn anatomy."
:iconstopplz:
Nononononono.
This will not teach you anatomy.
This will teach you shitty, stylized anatomy.
You want to learn anatomy? Look at real people.  Then stylize.
I don't care if you want to draw anime; you'll still need a foundation to build off of.

"Not all base art is bad! Look! [link][link][link]
the ONLY time I have seen this excuse, 5/6 have been links to works on original bases MADE BY THE ARTIST.
Alright. Some base artists are decent. Some have a good sense of colour and are good at drawing clothes or hair.
99% of the base community are still shitty, shitty artists who do terrible recolors of their terrible, terrible ocs.

"Why do you even care? We're just having fun."
I care because you're being selfish assholes who are hurting the entire art community by 'having fun'.
I don't care if you draw your own base from hand. I don't care if you look at references to help you with poses.
I care that you're stealing someone else's work, making it naked and pixelly, then telling people to 'CREDIT ME!!"
in the description. I care that you're stopping your own and everyone who uses your bases' improvement.
I care because you're the cause of endless, ENDLESS drama and anger and general hurt from artists everywhere,
everyday.


Deviantart, please start giving a shit about the actual hard-working artists in your community instead of catering to talentless art thieves.
HELP your members improve and grow as artists, don't ignore them and just "let them do what they want".


//rant end

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:icon1dobie1234:
Okay now I feel guilty and lazy for using bases. :/ Either way I see your logic in this rant, so I'm actually working on my own art without a base. :) Hopefully by the end of this month I will have all of my "art" will be replaced with my own work. I know it will be hard but it's the right thing to do. :) Thank you for making this rant, I might have not seen the problems with using a base if I didn't see this. :D
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=sockjuice May 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
That makes me really happy to hear! I realize this rant is pretty harsh but I'm so glad to see you see the point of it! ^^ I look forward to seeing your original art!
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*Mumoshii109 Apr 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I couldn't agree more
Amazing rant :iconinuclapplz:
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~Cornpop123 Apr 14, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I find it very difficult to draw on bases :/ . Even Frustrating at times .
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:iconrosey-the-fox:
~rosey-the-fox Apr 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't trace bases but I use ms paint. Does that mean im bad? :iconduckplz:
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:iconsockjuice:
=sockjuice Apr 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
of course not xD using a certain program does not make you a bad person
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~Iskadarsya Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconclapplz:

I never did like the idea of bases...at all. They get more credit than most artists that take the time to draw something.
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:iconcielea:
Lol, over a year ago I would rant about this journal.
Now I think it's the best rant ever!

I'm happy that I stopped using traced bases. :/
But I do need to say those bases did helped me with pixelart and clothing. (even though I'm still a beginner)

:iconclapplz:
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:iconsockjuice:
=sockjuice Jan 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
ahh thank you!

yes, I'm glad I stopped using them as well. I improved almost immediately after I started drawing my own things xD
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:iconmitsukuni-fan-gurl:
Most of the people who makes bases or do traced bases will credit the original artist and ask permission to use the picture before making the base. People who use the bases will credit the maker of the base thus crediting the original artist. Some people (like myself) use bases just to pass time and as a hobby. I can draw but I still love to use bases. And then again, why do you even care what others do? It's not affecting you is it? Probably not. I don't want to sound like a bitch but it's my opinion on the matter. Let people do as they please and stop bitching about what they do. I am sick and tired of people who do this. I live with it daily at home and I hate seeing it even more online. Something like this shouldn't be a concern to you if it doesn't affect you in any way. Honestly I don't even care what you have to say but one of my friends told me to read this so I did and it pisses me off. I would appreciate it if you didn't reply to this because I don't give a shit what you have to say to it.
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